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Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 09:44:00 - [1] seriously, who are you trying to fool, there is no risk to be taken in empire. I've fought lots of empire wars and know that if you have half a brain you will never die. Their whole alliance is based on "lets annoy some alliances by ganking their empire stragglers". People join them for access to easy ganks, not for a challenge. If they wanted a challenge, they would roam out in zeros. nothing wrong with them having fun with this, there are people who think mining veld is fun . doesnt make them cool or earn them any respect though. ----- Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker At this time I am more disgusted by the player base then with the dev to be honest! QFT!!
Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 10:03:00 - [2] Originally by: JMcClane How is being chased by 4 major hostile gank squads of 10-20 pilots a lower risk than sitting 25 ppl on a bubble camp 'defending' your 0.0 region? because in empire you can just dock and those 4 major gank squads chasing you are rendered useless? ----- Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker At this time I am more disgusted by the player base then with the dev to be honest! QFT!!
Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 10:14:00 - [3] Originally by: JMcClane And you do not have the option to dock in your 0.0 space? You do not have the option to supply yourselves with new ships from your station? .... Where we on the contrary have to fly 10-50 jumps back to get a new ship.... I wonder why we don't often choose to go to 0.0 where you have all the low risks, and we take all the highs! Think about it ;) You dock in your station - enemy comes in and kills your poses etc. If you want to defend your property you dont dock, you fight. Privies have nothing to defend, so docking isnt a problem for them. ----- Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker At this time I am more disgusted by the player base then with the dev to be honest! QFT!!
Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 10:18:00 - [4] Edited by: Breed Love on 26/02/2007 10:15:33 Originally by: JMcClane I've spend my time in 0.0. I still am spending my alt time in 0.0. Stop thinking I'm a fool. Realize that your advantages lie in 0.0, and ours does not! It doesn't get more simple! Then dont try to prtray yourselves as some noble heroes of teh empire, caus thats what makes you look stupid. Privateers are empire gankers who are in it for easy kills. Just stand for it, and ppl will respect you . If you pretend like you want risks, you just make yourself look like a fool. ----- Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker At this time I am more disgusted by the player base then with the dev to be honest! QFT!!
Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 10:31:00 - [5] Originally by: JMcClane I'm not portraying me as a noble hero of empire. I'm attempting to describe to you the concept and reasons behind our corporation being in Privateers. You are trying to look down upon us due to the fact that we don't pick our fights in your high castles, and that we do not enjoy this game in the same way you do. nothing wrong with enjoying the game the way you do, if you stand for it. You like easy ganks, just say it out loud and accept it. I look down upon you because you pretend like you want a challenge, while the whole concept of privateers is access to easy pvp. Im not saying it isnt fun. Im saying its easy. Quote: Try it for a while mate... You would be surprised of the challenge it actually brings, though it doesn't involve the organization of 100 man large fleets! I've been fighting empire wars for a year and a half before moving to 0.0, I know what it is all about. If you know what you're doing, the risks are minimal, saying otherwise means you are a liar . ofcos if i some day decide i want some easy kills, ill join privateers without a doubt. ----- Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker At this time I am more disgusted by the player base then with the dev to be honest! QFT!!
Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 10:45:00 - [6] Originally by: JMcClane Privateers is easy access to PVP. Not access to easy PVP! 1. I stand for it... I like what I'm doing 2. I'm having fun 3. It's not easy ganks as we take the fights against also larger gangs, if we are capable of matching them without us getting ganked. 4. Problem atm is... your larger gangs are all fighting in 0.0, so we don't see too many of them... This result in more ganks at the moment. Before the GREAT EVE WAR, the circumstances were different. 5. Risks are perhaps minimal in empire as you could choose to dock and outwait the hostile forces. But how is Ctrl Q in 0.0 much different? (Or Ctrl + Q in empire for that sake... We do get quite a bit of that) ctrl-q is ebil, but tbh docking > ctrl-q. Atleast you are still in game and can smacktalk in local . kudos to you for taking on challenging fights if you really do that. however, then speak for yourself and not the whole alliance. Personally, when I travel in a gang > 5 ppl, the only privateers I see are docked ones. ----- Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker At this time I am more disgusted by the player base then with the dev to be honest! QFT!!
Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 09:58:00 - [7] Yesterday when our small gang passed some system, we met a few privateers in nano huginns, who mwded all the way to offgrid once our first pilot jumped to their system. For the record, thats the second time I've seen a privateer in space in the last month . ----- Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker At this time I am more disgusted by the player base then with the dev to be honest! QFT!!
Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 10:04:00 - [8] Edited by: Breed Love on 27/02/2007 10:02:10 Originally by: Ki An By this statement, are we to generalize that all privateers mwd off grid, or that all privateers fly nano huginns? /Ki thats correct, you are all the same, just like all pvp in 0.0 is blob warfare. edit: added to that, you dock alot too, espec when anything but a hauler enters the system. ----- Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker At this time I am more disgusted by the player base then with the dev to be honest! QFT!!
Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 22:14:00 - [9] why do you keep babbling on about all this "come and kill us" stuff, when you just mwd away in your nano huginns as soon as a gang enters your system? honestly, every time i see undocked privateers, they are in nano ships getting an occasional gank and running away. skills? challenge? I think not. ----- Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker At this time I am more disgusted by the player base then with the dev to be honest! QFT!!
Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.28 10:18:00 - [10] Originally by: Ventosus I dont get it. Clearly. Your post is just completely irrelevant to what I've been saying. I just gave some examples why people dont like privateers, and likely never will. 1. hypocricy: saying they want challenge, but fight in empire (easy mode), gank blackscreened peeps at 4-4, mostly seen in nano ships (easy mode this too). 2. overpowered fotm setups.. fine if you like them but you wont earn respect for it. 3. the "im not with them!" attitude. If you are in a corp or alliance, you condone what they do, eg their lame tactics of camping 4-4 etc, and saying "they are bad, but im good lolz!!1" makes you look even worse. After all, if you really dont like what they do, you are free to leave. In the end, if you really want some recognition, which is, as I see it, why this thread was made, you can just say out loud what you are, and stop pretending. Like, "yeah we want easy pvp and we want to pirate in hisec, we dont want challenge, we want your loot and lots of killmails, and we dont care what you think of us". You are still likely to be disliked by many, but at least some will respect you a bit more. ----- Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker At this time I am more disgusted by the player base then with the dev to be honest! QFT!!
Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.28 11:37:00 - [11] Originally by: JMcClane 1. Hypocricy -> 1% of the alliance have perhaps done the 4-4 ganks. Let's take a look at FATAL and see if we can find 1% doing scams for example. I think we might be able to find some sort of dirt on ya! 2. Overpowered flavour of the month setups -> Let's see if we can find 1% in FATAL who try out the new popular setups. Again I think we might get lucky! Thats the hypocricy Im talking about. 1% of 600 is 6. So you are saying that only 6 people in the whole alliance have ever camped 4-4? Right. And most privateers I see are in nano ships. Quite a bit more than 1%. In fact, at one point I think I've seen more than your 1% in space at the same time. Also, once again are you claiming that you are out for a challenge. Empire wars are easy. You don't die if you dont want to. I've done this. I know. Quote: My corporation show that they don't condone of Jita 4-4 kills But your corporation joined privateers anyway, also known as empire hub campers. It certainly doesnt make you look better than the rest now, does it? Actions > words. Quote: Yes we want loot (it's our way of living), Yes, we want killmails (That's our way of documenting what happens in combat), and yes we want to pirate in high sec. The point where you skid of the road is your assumption of that being easily done. We have larger gangs hunting us all the time. We are often outnumbered our 'camps' / gangs are often challenged! See above, hypocricy etc. The remaining part of your post is irrelevant to my point. ----- Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker At this time I am more disgusted by the player base then with the dev to be honest! QFT!!
Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.28 12:07:00 - [12] Originally by: JMcClane My understanding of the above "I don't want to discuss this, as I know he's right about the alliances funding Privateers" Wrong. Its exactly what I said it is - irrelevant. I was saying why people dislike privateers, and why you received so much flame in this thread. This has nothing to do with funding. Let make put it very short and clear. You use lame-ish tactics and annoy the crap out of people in empire. This is fine in itself, many do that. But then you come to the forums and try to make yourselves look totally different. You say this and do that. That, my friend, makes you a hypocrite. And nobody likes them. P.S. Quote: Does this only work for Privateers, or does this work for both parties. Doesn't this mean that ppl could avoid us unless they actually wanted a fight. Doesn't this mean that we are fighting only ppl who choose not to "not die"? Nope. I believe most of your kills are people who you caught off-guard. Personally, I find it very easy to dodge privateers in empire, regardless of my ship type. However, some might not feel like taking the necessary precautions, and they get ganked. Tough luck. ----- Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker At this time I am more disgusted by the player base then with the dev to be honest! QFT!!

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